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reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. cornell, bored, aloof, some said even arrogant. those are some of the words used today and last night to describe president obama on that stage. what exactly was the strategy heading into this? was there a strategy? >> what you saw last night from the president was the president trying to lay out the facts to those few undecided voters that are still out there. here's our plan, here's how we want to move the country forward versus mitt romney and his plan about moving the country forward. the problem with the debate last night is that one candidate showed up talking about the facts of their plan and the other candidate showed up with a completely different plan, and was completely dishonest about the facts of his plan. that was a little problematic. >> but the president did not seem to take the fight to mitt romney. if you believe that mitt romney wasn't being honest, the presid
reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. cornell, bored, aloof, some said even arrogant. those are some of the words used today and last night to describe president obama on that stage. what exactly was the strategy heading into this? was there a strategy? >> what you saw last night from the president was the president trying to lay out the facts to those few...
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> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distracted. he was not -- he was umm -- as you point ou
> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real...
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a couple of days before the debate, embracing he was the godfather of obama care. the larger issue is, with mitt romney coming out and saying, i was wrong, does that help him reset his campaign? >> no. >> you say -- >> i say no because he's looking more and more like a shape shifter, which is precisely the stereotype that people have somehow in their minds held about him, including people on the right. you don't know who the real mitt romney is. by doing this it's like he's inflicting 1,000 cuts on himself. this constant movement and bobs and weaving doesn't help him recover when it comes to likability and trustability. >> anne let met get you in. in virginia governor romney was with congressman ryan there. they had the fireworks, and it actually reminlded me of when the republicans would criticize the democrats for having those pillars remember at the last democratic national convention. quite a beautiful sight, but even chuck todd and our first read team noted that image alone could look like you still have a few more debates to go. >> well, i think that's right.
a couple of days before the debate, embracing he was the godfather of obama care. the larger issue is, with mitt romney coming out and saying, i was wrong, does that help him reset his campaign? >> no. >> you say -- >> i say no because he's looking more and more like a shape shifter, which is precisely the stereotype that people have somehow in their minds held about him, including people on the right. you don't know who the real mitt romney is. by doing this it's like he's...
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when we asked debate watchers their opinion of president obama before the debate, after the debate, favorable, unfavorable, unchanged essentially, and the same for mitt romney, unchanged. mitt romney, 55% favorable. high for him. so while they may have believed mitt romney won the debate, the question is whether it chaz changed their attitude toward mitt mitt romney. >> first of all, that sample i think we'll find out that sample was more than just a few points more republican. i have never seen a poll like that. the second thing is, you got to say the idea is that you moved the needle to favorability. -- 65% said he won it. and if you look at the issue of distinctions in a sample that seemed to me to be a few points more republican, i'm now -- and people say, yes, he won the debate. everybody here says he won the debate. i'm not sure if the payoff will be that huge. >> we don't know the payoff yet. one way or the other. the sample sounds like it's skews. but it's worth noting that cbs took a poll tonight of undecideds, and had 2-1 romney winning. we have two polls out there. we'll
when we asked debate watchers their opinion of president obama before the debate, after the debate, favorable, unfavorable, unchanged essentially, and the same for mitt romney, unchanged. mitt romney, 55% favorable. high for him. so while they may have believed mitt romney won the debate, the question is whether it chaz changed their attitude toward mitt mitt romney. >> first of all, that sample i think we'll find out that sample was more than just a few points more republican. i have...
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president obama was saying something the other day, i'm not really a good debater. gee, i don't really -- >> they're both very, very smart guys. >> if you talk about the top 1%, intellect, these guys are in the top 1%. there's nothing to choose between among intellect. there's a lot to choose between them on policy. i hope they get into a good discussion of policy because from my point of view i think romney would get the better of that but i'm not sure. we'll see. >> we looked at past debates. some folks seem to get into trouble when they start debating over the debate rules themselves. i want to play a quick montage of stuff. >> i have to let senator obama respond. and senator edwards will come in as well. go ahead and respond. >> wait -- >> you just spoke for two minutes. >> i did not say anything about ronald reagan. >> you can dispute that but let me finish. hillary, you went on for two minutes. let me finish. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here, is that i get 60 seconds and then you
president obama was saying something the other day, i'm not really a good debater. gee, i don't really -- >> they're both very, very smart guys. >> if you talk about the top 1%, intellect, these guys are in the top 1%. there's nothing to choose between among intellect. there's a lot to choose between them on policy. i hope they get into a good discussion of policy because from my point of view i think romney would get the better of that but i'm not sure. we'll see. >> we...
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obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. but clearly this debate is one of those rare political events where both candidates are the underdogs. >> apparently, if you listen to it. >> yeah. so there is maybe an opportunity for somebody to surprise. >> it is very hard, it seems to me, in a debate to be -- to show your likability skills, right? >> right. i think that right. the other thing that's hard for mitt romney is he just seems weird to people and they can't relate to him and he doesn't seem in touch with their lives and that's particularly true for women voters. if you're an attack dog in the debate, you're not going to fill in the mode. >> bill clinton was very likeable and he did that in a debate. that's not mitt romney's strength. why should he try to do it there. >> we have a lot of recent history. sometimes he blows it, bitting $10,000 but a lot of times he's come back and done quite well and stepped up to t
obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. but clearly this debate is one of those rare political events where both candidates are the underdogs. >> apparently, if you listen to it. >> yeah. so there is maybe an opportunity for somebody to surprise. >> it is very hard, it seems to me, in a debate to be -- to show your likability skills, right? >>...
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in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the president is hitted to wisconsin, but not before taking one last parting shot a a fiery rally in denver not too long ago. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to pay for the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> around the same time governor romney was making a surprise appearance at the conservative political action conference, cpac in denver before heading to virginia for an event with congressman paul ryan later on this evening. zoo >> i know your passion for econo america and your desire to take our country back. for that to happen you guys have to cheer here and knock on doors and get people who vo
in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the president is hitted to wisconsin, but not before taking one last parting shot a a fiery rally in denver not too long ago. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. it couldn't have...
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erin, you heard ed, that president obama lost the debate but now the excuses are rolling in. al gore says, no, no, no, he lost because of the altitude in denver, 5,000', and the obama campaign saying it is because mitt romney wasn't honest. they are having a tough time trying to spin out of this. >>guest: they are. another thing that we heard david axelrod say this morning is that the president didn't want to have two candidates on stage insulting each other. that was part of the reasoning for why he didn't bring up bain capital or romney's tax returns or the 47 percent video. >>trace: "politico" had a quote that said there was no knockout punch but a thousand cuts that made obama plead. the question everyone is asking, how much did he bleed. how much did it cost? >>guest: it is hard to say because it will take a long-term, not a long-term, up to a week to she in the presidents. we don't know yet what it will look like in the battleground states. the obama campaign is moving very quickly to make that trust argument against mitt romney through some of their surrogates in state
erin, you heard ed, that president obama lost the debate but now the excuses are rolling in. al gore says, no, no, no, he lost because of the altitude in denver, 5,000', and the obama campaign saying it is because mitt romney wasn't honest. they are having a tough time trying to spin out of this. >>guest: they are. another thing that we heard david axelrod say this morning is that the president didn't want to have two candidates on stage insulting each other. that was part of the...
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have you president obama saying mitt romney is an experienced debater. he has been through this many times. and romney's campaign is saying obama gione of the best speakers to walk the earth, ever. >> we talked about this earlier, talking about biden's sharp special witty. even the number twos are doing a lot of praising right now. but for the most part, what we have heard is the managing of expectations. sort of the white house and the campaign, on the 'bama campaign suggesting that the president is rusty and hasn't debated anybody in four years. what do you make of that? >> president obama has been thinking that mitt romney would be his opponent, his entire presidency because mitt romney has been running for so long. but by the time the debate comes on wednesday night, both of the men will have had five straight days of prep preparation. they will be plenty prepared. they have everything they want to say -- >> i am having nightmare flashbacks. charlie, what do you think that the candidates need to be to be considered quote/unquote the winner? or will t
have you president obama saying mitt romney is an experienced debater. he has been through this many times. and romney's campaign is saying obama gione of the best speakers to walk the earth, ever. >> we talked about this earlier, talking about biden's sharp special witty. even the number twos are doing a lot of praising right now. but for the most part, what we have heard is the managing of expectations. sort of the white house and the campaign, on the 'bama campaign suggesting that the...
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we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i want the american people to know we've added private-sector jobs for the last 30 months and we're headed in the right direction. how hard is that to say? is that hard? >> ezra klein is coming up to check some of the money numbers that we did hear tonight. we're mad about the numbers that were not articulated as we check the one that were. our live coverage of the first presidential debate. stay with us. >> this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold idea is, never mind. >> we'll focus on getting the cost of health care down.
we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i...
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obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. romney, his candidacy has a -- his canvas has a blank space there. he can do that. this is a rare political event where both candidates are the underdogs. >> it is hard in debate to show your likability skills. >> the other thing hard for mitt romney, he seems weird to people, they can't relate to them, doesn't seem in touch with their lives, particularly for women voters. if you're an attack dog in the debate -- >> that's the difference between being an attack dog and drawing contrast on where you lead the country. bill clinton was likeable and did that in debate. that's not mitt romney's strength, why should he try to do it there. >> we have a lot of recent history with mitt romney at debates. sure, sometimes he blows it, betting $10,000, other times he has really come back and done quite well and he has stepped up to the occasion. but it is mixed. there's a mixed bag. havin
obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. romney, his candidacy has a -- his canvas has a blank space there. he can do that. this is a rare political event where both candidates are the underdogs. >> it is hard in debate to show your likability skills. >> the other thing hard for mitt romney, he seems weird to people, they can't relate to them, doesn't seem...
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great of the debater. it was more mccain making gaffes then but retail politics with energizing crowds it could be the winning formula. they are close in the polls already. neil: do think he got under the president's skin? he does not like to be challenged. there was the snide comment to jim lehrer. it was flippant but it had the notion he can be too sensitive. >> the republicans have a problem in 2011 with 40 debates. obama has not had anybody challenging him. pelosi and reader not or his administration. the first time in republican could get at him mano a mano. the president seem perturbed that he had to respond and he is president of united states. i agree with you. neil: you should pursue this history thing. i think the you have a future. you work the graveyard shift and i am proud of view. neil: it is my i feel that way. we will crunched some numbers the former u.s. comptroller says if we don't get a handle on this we will all go down. after this. with real advice, for real goals. the us bank wealth m
great of the debater. it was more mccain making gaffes then but retail politics with energizing crowds it could be the winning formula. they are close in the polls already. neil: do think he got under the president's skin? he does not like to be challenged. there was the snide comment to jim lehrer. it was flippant but it had the notion he can be too sensitive. >> the republicans have a problem in 2011 with 40 debates. obama has not had anybody challenging him. pelosi and reader not or...
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megyn: in debate prep, senator robb portman portrayed barack obama. he told them there wasn't one question came up they hadn't pressed governor romney on. there was so much he left on editing iting table for he didn't get hit by barack obama. today some questioned whether your former boss, john kerry, was the right guy to play mitt romney in the debate prep with barack obama. someone on fox news suggesting earlier today he wants to be secretary of state if barack obama wins a second term. is he right guy to really press his buttons and get in his face for debate thoughts? your thoughts? no the campaign going on for 2,000 days. john kerry prepared with all the answers mitt romney given. i'm not sure practice is really the question here. i think the bigger question was, were there things that happened in the debate last night that could come back to haunt governor romney. in his own voice he said the medicare plan he has is to move to voucher system. we haven't had him on the record to the camera saying that yet. there were definitely things that happen
megyn: in debate prep, senator robb portman portrayed barack obama. he told them there wasn't one question came up they hadn't pressed governor romney on. there was so much he left on editing iting table for he didn't get hit by barack obama. today some questioned whether your former boss, john kerry, was the right guy to play mitt romney in the debate prep with barack obama. someone on fox news suggesting earlier today he wants to be secretary of state if barack obama wins a second term. is he...
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giving speeches in a stadium and blowing off democratic interest groups who invite him to debate. john kerri wanted to endorse him and he said no. he is on the internet and social media and all this crazy stuff nobody had ever done before. i said to david axelrod i don't have a better idea for how he could have done this. why didn't you break the rules in washington and david axelrod's answer is because it is washington, not america. there really are sort of a prisoner to the tyranny of 60 votes and obama really does believe were certainly did believe that if we get the policy right the policies will take care of themselves. he said that was blowing down from the top. they took this almost perverse pride that we will put our head down and do the right thing. the best example that i tell in the book, democrats your heads will explode when you read this, tax cuts -- you may remember in 2008 george bush this stimulus. it was $180 billion and sent everybody a check. love, george bush. here is the money. obama did the same thing except for the czech part. behavioral economics showed th
giving speeches in a stadium and blowing off democratic interest groups who invite him to debate. john kerri wanted to endorse him and he said no. he is on the internet and social media and all this crazy stuff nobody had ever done before. i said to david axelrod i don't have a better idea for how he could have done this. why didn't you break the rules in washington and david axelrod's answer is because it is washington, not america. there really are sort of a prisoner to the tyranny of 60...
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to have to be aggressive in this debate. that's not an easy thing to capitol hill bright. you cato calibrate. you can go overboard. he's opposing a young, earnest guy, so it's not an easy thing to do. biden has been through this many times. paul ryan has never been on a stage this large. and i remember during the convention, in the first 10 minutes of his convention speech, he was really nervous. so you know -- it's not sure how this will come out. >> sarah palin had never been on a national stage when she debated joe biden and the consensus is she had a draw. joe biden i think has had a long, distinguished career, but he's become a little rusty and a little excitable on the campaign trail. >> schieffer: what do you think paul ryan has to do here? i'm sure no one would advise him to take the tack that sarah palin did, because while she caused a lot of talk, i think in the end, she was not a plus for that campaign. you may disagree, but-- >> she fought joe biden to a draw. i think paul ryan has to address some specific questi
to have to be aggressive in this debate. that's not an easy thing to capitol hill bright. you cato calibrate. you can go overboard. he's opposing a young, earnest guy, so it's not an easy thing to do. biden has been through this many times. paul ryan has never been on a stage this large. and i remember during the convention, in the first 10 minutes of his convention speech, he was really nervous. so you know -- it's not sure how this will come out. >> sarah palin had never been on a...
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i really want to hear from anybody who thought that president obama won the debate last night. come on, chime in. dare we call this a romney rally? futures up as we firmly count down the to the opening bell of the market. we have that and much more from last night's debate coming up. u turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech mastpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. man on tv: ...rbis and 36 homers. swings at the first pitch and fouls it deep back into the stands. [ding] [fans whirring] announcer: chill raw and prepared foods promptly. one in 6 americans will get sick from food poisoning this year. check your steps at foodsafety.gov. >> now, a couple of moments ago, almost chokingly getting a romney rally on the stock market. of cours
i really want to hear from anybody who thought that president obama won the debate last night. come on, chime in. dare we call this a romney rally? futures up as we firmly count down the to the opening bell of the market. we have that and much more from last night's debate coming up. u turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared...
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the first in the presidential debates in this election cycle between president barack obama and former massachusetts governor mitt romney. the stage is ready in denver, colorado. the university of denver. and all of the expectations management to the contrary, the two men you're going to see tonight are very good debaters. they have four ivy leagu degrees between them, after all, and 50 debates between them, though not against each other until tonight. there is a critical third man on that stage tonight in denver. that's the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. he's done a dozen of these. and the rules, which he will announce at the start, give him broad leeway to guide the conversation and the debate. it is a cold room in denver. the campaigns wanted the temperature low. and it's not likely to stay that way once we get under way. both men have been prepping for days. this happens to be the obamas' 20th wedding anniversary. moments ago we saw a warm embrace between mrs. romney and mrs. obama. they both met each other at the front of the hall. their hiss, this is the first of three meetings de
the first in the presidential debates in this election cycle between president barack obama and former massachusetts governor mitt romney. the stage is ready in denver, colorado. the university of denver. and all of the expectations management to the contrary, the two men you're going to see tonight are very good debaters. they have four ivy leagu degrees between them, after all, and 50 debates between them, though not against each other until tonight. there is a critical third man on that...
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as president obama touched down in denver, he brought the experience of 22 previous president debates, primary and general election with him. we've seen him draw upon his command in being able to make a bold pledge. >> if we have osama bin laden in our sights, and the pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then i think that we have to act and we will take them out. >> reporter: and we've seen him tap his reservoir of righteousness to make a strong attack. >> you said we knew where the weapons of mass destruction were. you were wrong. you said that we were going to be greeted as liberators. you were wrong. >> reporter: tonight will be mitt romney's 36th presidential debate. though his first as nominee. his team is hoping he'll show the agility we've seen him display. >> if people are looking for someone who will discriminate against gays, they won't find that in me. >> when is the last time you stood up and spoke out for increasing gay rights? >> right now. >> reporter: as well as his ability to jujitsu, to forcefully use an attack against his attacker. >> mr. sp
as president obama touched down in denver, he brought the experience of 22 previous president debates, primary and general election with him. we've seen him draw upon his command in being able to make a bold pledge. >> if we have osama bin laden in our sights, and the pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then i think that we have to act and we will take them out. >> reporter: and we've seen him tap his reservoir of righteousness to make a strong attack....
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eastern for this big debate. we'll see you then. i'm barack obama, and i approve this message. these appliances could have been made here in america. but a company called global tech maximized profits by paying its workers next to nothing... under sweatshop conditions in china. when mititt romney led bain, thy saw global tech ec a good investment... even knowing that the rm promoted its practice of exploiting... low-wage labor to its investors. mitt romney - tough on china? since when?
eastern for this big debate. we'll see you then. i'm barack obama, and i approve this message. these appliances could have been made here in america. but a company called global tech maximized profits by paying its workers next to nothing... under sweatshop conditions in china. when mititt romney led bain, thy saw global tech ec a good investment... even knowing that the rm promoted its practice of exploiting... low-wage labor to its investors. mitt romney - tough on china? since when?
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romney batters, bam, barak obama in first debate direct mitt. you look at twitter, you look at the instar poll, it's clear, mitt romney had a banner night last night. >> brian: a lot of people on the left feel the same way, from james carville to even van jones weighed in and said that the president got hammered. joining us, a man that went shoulder to shoulder with the president before he was president, senator john mccain. senator, your review of what you saw for 90 minutes? >> if it were a fight, they would have stopped it. [ laughter ] >> steve: in the first round. >> maybe give him three or four rounds. >> gretchen: you actually twittered that. >> yeah. i think that it's very clear that the reason why i think this has significant impact is one, americans saw the real mitt romney as opposed to the hundreds of millions of dollars attack ads that have been portraying him as, you know, all the things that they have done. also by the way, i guess i heard that 25% said that they thought that obama won. it's like that 11% of congress that approve
romney batters, bam, barak obama in first debate direct mitt. you look at twitter, you look at the instar poll, it's clear, mitt romney had a banner night last night. >> brian: a lot of people on the left feel the same way, from james carville to even van jones weighed in and said that the president got hammered. joining us, a man that went shoulder to shoulder with the president before he was president, senator john mccain. senator, your review of what you saw for 90 minutes? >> if...
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i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was just the elevation and the president was i guess didn't have enough oxygen and just couldn't get the energy level up. >> let's not waste our time on serious analysis with al gore's view about the air. >> bill: are you repudiating global warming? >> of course, not global warming but that idea is just superficial it's ridiculous. i want to congratulate you one thing on the 20 anniversary good call on your part. the bad call on your part is these debates are going to matter. there hasn't been a debate that has mattered since 1960 or maybe 1980. >> bill: bill different time. >> let me g
i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was...